A conflict aspect between two serious heavyweights such as these, not surprisingly, has stirred a great deal of concern, but really shouldn’t. It’s a clash of the titans, a rough meeting of forces with ancient origins–and as such, it will affect most of us as significant background, rather than up front pressure or confrontation. It brings to bear on the life general energies that require discipline and effort (and if we don’t discipline ourselves, circumstances come along and do it for us! Such is the influence of Saturn) and that will require the utmost seriousness and honesty–as Pluto will rile the depths until truth be told.
No wonder many people are worried about this! But, not to fear–it’s an excellent long-term opportunity to make significant, down-to-the-roots changes that can immensely better your world. Will it take work? Yes, Saturn’s involved; Will it be dramatic and messy? Yup, Pluto can bring forward the secrets and question the theatrics that have been protecting them like no other. Is this bad? Only if you don’t want to do the hard work–but this doesn’t have to be especially hard, with the difference between difficult and relatively smooth being one’s willingness to address what comes forward. It’s that simple.
Parsing out the effects of this square over time is best done in two ways: an inspection of the ways it contacts the natal chart, naturally, and in watching what through transit touches the square. This latter will give a tenor to the square, giving the energy clash a certain flavor–and right now, that happens to be provided by a sesquiquadrate formed by Jupiter in Aquarius. This stimulates a strong desire to understand the square intellectually (but the majority of its energies are more primal than that–sensing them works better), and it makes us prone to project the effects outward, into our social sphere or society at large. Tensions generated by needed change will find expression in one’s role or interaction in the group arena–which could be unsettling, as everyone changes partners and shifts position, drawing lines in the sand, demanding the bare-knuckles truth, and overall looking to reflect inner changes in significant change to the surroundings.
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Thank you for this, Julie.
With this Saturn opposite my Sun and conjunct my Jupiter/Uranus, all part of a t-square with Pluto (now thankfully Direct), I suspect these Saturn-Pluto energies may manifest in the necessary work required to move overseas. The VISA and Residence Permit process (authority of Saturn) and the packing and shipping of all our stuff (Pluto at work helping me to sort and discard) all making sense to me astrologically.
Now we just have to see if my partner (Full Moon conjunct his Midheaven from the 9th House with Mars sextile his Sun and Venus applying conjunction Mercury and sextile Jupiter) got a job with the company he met in Zurich, Switzerland, last week! Should know tomorrow. — fingers crossed! —
Always enjoy reading your take on the astrological weather. (^~^)
Thank you, Duse. Much luck with your move–I’ve done the continent to continent thing and it’s not easy! From what you say about your partner’s transits, it sounds like he’ll get the job–I hope he does, if that’s what you both want–jd
Thank you for the reply, Julie. Yeah, it is what we both want. It’d be a shift into a new career for him while still using his twenty-odd years of being a lawyer and international tax expert, plus it’d get us to Europe which is where we’ve wanted to be since 2005 or so.
Just waiting for the phone to ring! LOL In addition to the transits I mentioned above, there’s also Sun/Mercury sextile his Saturn which just got a nice trine from the Full Moon.
In any case, I’m optimistic and thank you for your vote of confidence.
I’ll let you know!
Donna Cunningham said:
This is an excellent summary, Julie, I’ve been surfing the web this morning to see what other astrologers are saying about this transit, and many of them were so gloom and doom. I’m doing a series of posts on practical ways of approaching the transit, and would like to quote a bit of what you’ve written in a piece that links to helpful information.
Thank you so much, Donna! It’s an honor to be quoted by one of my teachers, as that’s what you’ve been through your many great publications and articles. Readers, please see Donna’s currently available Ebooks here http://www.moonmavenpublications.com A wonderful idea, to gather and present some practical ways of using the energy–I don’t know what astrology’s for, if not to offer us that very option for all that we face.
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Just wanted to add a bit of info on the saturn/pluto square affecting my chart: not bad, not bad at all! Tr. saturn conj. natal jupiter and square natal sun, tr. pluto conj. natal sun. A whole new world unfolded a few months ago, a door opened and I walked through it and the new world sucked all the old air out and phew! that old air is gone with the wind and now I’m free. Thank you oh rulers of my chart, thank you!!
Thanks for sharing, nueva–glad it worked out so well for you!
I agree, most discussions on this transit are doom and gloom. Traansiting saturn is also about to conjunct my natal Pluto in the 12th, i was really getting scared for a minute. Tranasiting Saturn will soon be trining my Jupiter in aquarius in the fourth.. I’m looking for assiatnce with childcare for my daughter, as wel as starting a new job at a hospice here in New York, It’s been really tough..I just pray alot!
Hi Nicole! I’m glad it only scared you for a minute! T SA to your natal PL in the 12th may offer up the unconscious as an organizer–you may orchestrate the changes that need to be made without really thinking about them–which should take you in the direction for Soul growth, a pretty good outcome! Best of luck with finding care for Aneksi, and with your new job–I think you’ll do very well at it! Best, jd
Saturn/Pluto article was very insightful to me and was easy to ‘see’ how the planets effect us, even for a astrological novice like myself.
Thank you, Padriac–glad it was of help