Like everyone else, it seems, I’ve been having some highly unusual dreams of late, so I decided to run down some of the associated asteroids and other bodies, just to see what this might spell out by contacts to my own natal chart. I’ll offer my interpretations, and invite you to see where these might fit in your own chart–I’ll keep details of my nighttime adventures to a minimum; as author John Green (and a lot of other people) have said, “Nothing is as boring as other people’s dreams.”
First we look at asteroid Orpheus, named for the poet, musician, and prophet (that last not until after death, when his still-singing head was thrown into the sea, landing at Lesbos where an Orphic oracle was established). He was known to enthrall and charm (in an almost magical sense) others with his creations and performances; even the animals, trees, and rocks were said to have moved when Orpheus played. He learned his Arts from Calliope, the patron of epic poetry and likely his mother, while his father is said to have been either the King of Thrace or the god Apollo.
Orpheus voyaged with the Argonauts and saved them by blasting his boom box (or however they did it in those days!), drowning out the Sirens’ seductive call. Upon their return, Orpheus married Eurydice; the honeymoon had scarcely begun when she was bitten by a snake and died. Naturally, her husband mourned her with song. He charmed all who heard him, including Charon, the boatman who transports Souls across the river Styx, as well as Hell’s guard dog, Cerberus. His grief was so affecting that Hades chose to grant the disconsolate musician an exception: you can lead your bride out of the Underworld, Orpheus, on one condition, that you will not look back at her until you’re both completely above ground–and Orpheus readily agreed.
We all know what happened: Orpheus had almost reached the surface, and had managed not to look behind him, when he suddenly turned; some versions claim he heard a noise, some that he saw the Sun and wanted to share the moment with his wife, but in any case, she vanished, his mission ending in failure. So what does this have to do with a dream of mine? I was told that I was an Orpheus-like individual in a dream world that was supposed to be the 1920s. There were a number of people in a large, gold-walled room, and I was to round them up and lead them out–and that’s all I remember.
On the day of the dream, the asteroid Orpheus (3361) was at 19 Capricorn 53–within orb to both Pluto 21 Capricorn 11 (another version of Hades, which asteroid was at 5 Cancer 53) and Charon, the boatman, which is a moon of Pluto and travels with it, and asteroid Cerberus at 27 Aquarius 9, with Eurydice (also spelled Eurydike) at 9 Libra 28. The agent of dreams, Neptune, was at 15 Pisces 01.
Orpheus, Pluto, and Charon are all passing through my 12th, sextile my Moon and opposed my Ceres=this suggests an Underworld journey, in the spiritual or emotional sense, one that is meant to re-make the individual, or to be seen as part of a larger, life-death-life cycle–a winter experience, one of loss as part of a larger pattern, or of death or what’s beyond this life, perhaps? Hades is square my Mars=again, the trip to the Underworld, the result of my actions, or because of them?! Hades is the one who offered Orpheus the deal, that O couldn’t see through out of impatience, folly, impulsivity? The dog that guards the Underworld, Cerberus, is square my Venus and sextile my Sedna–maybe being ‘guarded’ keeps out love, or money, but allows the instincts and deep knowing to function without distraction–necessary for such a journey. Eurydice, a stand-in for what’s rescued from the darkness, sits conjoined my Mars=is passage through the Underworld a kind of retreat, necessary to save the Self, or perhaps to save the ability to act autonomously? Maybe. And finally there’s Neptune, in wide quincunx to my Sun=dreams that may disturb, just a bit, in order to reveal something of the Soul. And I’ll throw in one more, Hekate, the way-shower, which is at 23 Cancer, conjoined my Ceres=Mother Nature as guide–I hope she’ll show me more.
Coyote from Orion said:
Hermes tends to take on the role of underworld messenger when working for Hades. Mercury-Pluto.
The Matrix films use this dynamic a bit in how souls leave the matrix… ie: through the Frenchman (married to Persephone) by the Train Man (crossing the river Styx).
Thank you–I hadn’t thought of looking at Mercury. It happened to have been at 10 Aries–moving backward, opposed the rough midpoint of my Mars-Jupiter. I’m not sure it adds to the picture, though, as I wasn’t looking for a messenger, as no actual figure spoke to me in the dream, it was simply an ‘instruction’ in my head, and the point was to use symbols from the dream–I (the Orpheus figure) was the one ‘moving between worlds’ (and looking to take others from one ‘room’ to another). But it’s good to remember that Hermes/ Mercury has a number of different roles, beyond our usual associations.
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Juli Arthurs said:
I wonder if this was also a time for past life dreams – I had a vivid dream where I was a horse rider – it was my job to go out on horseback every day and I was confident galloping on horseback something that has eluded me in this life! I had to choose a fighting dog to sit behind me on the saddle. I thought perhaps your dream related to a past life as well.
Good point, and highly possible, though in my case, those dreams I’ve had I considered direct glimpses of a past life had a completely different quality than any other dream: they were sharp and defined in an unusual and hard-to-describe way, with several items or events ‘enhanced’ so I would get the connection (and possibly what I was meant to remember) useful to now–and this dream wasn’t that way–even in the dream I knew what I was seeing was symbolic. I think, though, that we ‘know’ those dreams when they come, so I have no doubt yours is exactly that. Sounds like the kind of life I would’ve loved, riding all day, dog at my side, patrolling the countryside! I hope you enjoyed it 🙂
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anupturnedsoul said:
Great post! I love hearing about your dreams, you share them seeking to understand them and yourself and that makes your telling of them interesting.
What you shared of your dream plus the associations you made during your awake time connects (at least in my mind) with something I’ve just been reading – The Chymical Marriage/Wedding of Christian Rosencreutz. If you haven’t read it, you might find it intriguing, it is richly symbolic (there’s much in it which ties in with the themes you’ve spoken about in this post – there’s a sleeping Venus hidden deep in a special crypt of sorts, and themes of death and rebirth).
Q: Why the 1920’s?
Did you look to see where those asteroids et al were located during the 1920’s and how they interact with your chart and present day transits from that point in time? – that’s a random idea which just popped into my head.
I haven’t had any unusual dreams of late, but my chart is heavily dominated atm by transiting Saturn (intelligentia/ratiocinatio).
The mention of Orpheus always reminds me of that song – che faro senza euridice
I hope you’ll share more of your dreams 🙂
Thank you, upturned, for the kind words and the excellent suggestions–I hadn’t thought to look at the positions of the asteroids during the ’20s–now I will–it’s odd, I’ve had dreams set in the ’20s before, but always it seemed to stand for other things, pointing toward specific details–this time even in the dream I felt like it was an outlier–but I will find that book–sounds intriguing–and I know the feeling of having Saturn looming. Natally it sits at the top of my chart, and sometimes it feels like he throws a wet blanket over everything. Just for fun. Glad in your reality it’s more transitory 🙂
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boozilla said:
It’s kind of what you do, though, isn’t it? guiding from the dark to the light? xo
I do hope so, boo–though I’m sure I’m feeling my way along as much as anyone else! xo 🙂
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1weaver said:
i thought along similar lines as boo. a kind of next phase commissioning…i feel pretty sure that you will ‘get’ this at some point in time. cool!
Thanks 1. It’s just that *said in a whining, wailing voice* I don’t want to be a tour guide! And that goes in the ‘Can’t Win Them All’ bin 🙂
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boozilla said:
Haha Jewels! it’s not so much tour guide as Naturally Shining Beacon. and, you know, one door closes and a window opens in the building next door……xxxxxxx
🙂 And then we have to figure out how to swing across, rooftop to rooftop! I can tell you’ve been there 😉 thanks, boo xoxo
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