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The AstroEssence: Birth time No new aspects perfect today–it’s a blank slate, though we do note the Moon moves through late Pisces and trines Mercury, guaranteeing the fog doesn’t lift just yet–so I’d like to address a topic I’ve recently been asked about: What does it mean astrologically speaking when someone doesn’t have a birth time?
First we need to know what birth time describes in the natal chart: it’s used to locate the positions of all planets in the Houses–that is, it defines the exact point on the horizon (the rising degree, as well as sign, with each sign occupying a space of 2 hours on the horizon every day) at birth according to the latitude (how far north or south of the equator the birth place is), and so determines House position for each body, as they are located longitudinally around the chart–and this is true no matter what House system is used.
The natal chart, then, is a map of the sky as seen looking south (if you’re born north of the equator) or looking north (if you’re born south of the equator) from the exact spot on Earth where you’re born, with the bodies located below the Ascendant-Descendant axis (Houses 1-6) not visible from the birth location, while those in Houses 7-12 are potentially visible, if you have the means to spot them. No matter what the House system used, the Ascendant and Midheaven (and their corresponding opposite points) will always be the same for the individual–but in order to know them, we must know the birth time.
What is missing from understanding the individual if you don’t know the time of birth? When the Ascendant is unknown, we can’t be sure how the individual meets the world: how they present themselves, and what others see on first interacting. It’s the Soul’s ‘point of entry’ in terms of time and space, and it is shaped by very early experiences concerning body concepts, concepts surrounding the ‘I Am’, and survival. Typically, the Ascendant describes, among other things, both the personality and the kinds of coping behaviors the individual learned in the early environment; with the latter, these are behaviors that the individual interpreted as guaranteeing survival. We may observe this when someone feels threatened–often they will retreat to some version of and to behaviors rooted in the energy of the Ascendant sign–and we can observe it as the ‘first line’ approach when someone reaches out to others, as the Ascendant energies are seen by the individual as what others value them for, hence the association with helping one survive.
A couple of examples: my Ascendant is Aquarius, and I tackle everything with the mind first, attempting to understand, especially before I move forward–and in early life intellectual acuity seemed to me to be what allowed for success–but the mind is also the place I retreat to: the intellect becomes my weapon, my ambassador, my defense, and understanding is always the goal, and the only thing that makes me feel safe. My husband’s Ascendant is Sagittarius. He tries to meet the world by knowing ‘the facts’, or by engaging immediately and heading for the horizon to have a Sagittarian adventure; when he defends, it’s also with whatever knowledge he can muster, and when he retreats, it’s to wander, physically or mentally, toward that same horizon! So, when the birth time is missing, we’re missing a vital piece of the puzzle, specific to the individual processing and response to her or his part in the world.
The Midheaven is also unknowable without a birth time, though since it inherently carries a sense of removal (the career is a relatively impersonal thing, as is business, and we have no control over the reputation or the way others know us ‘at a distance’, in an entirely impersonal manner) it is most important in terms of timing, with transits to it–so we lose an indicator for worldly opportunity and involvement, as well as the chance to know the ‘flavor’ of our public persona, which can help tell us what others expect us to be, or be good at.
The other big issue is that we are unable to associate planets and signs with their ‘correct’ Houses for the individual. The best we can do is choose a noon chart, smack in the middle of the day for the place of birth, which offers a kind of mid-picture, and gives us our best guess as to a valid Moon–or we can use a sunrise chart for that day, placing the Sun on the Ascendant, which allows the Solar energy to illuminate potentials for the individual in meeting the world. And of course, not having a birth time puts the descriptive burden on the relationships among the various chart bodies–but there is much to be learned there, so we’re never without recourse for at least some knowledge of the individual, when missing a correct time.

Not all altars are quite so obvious. Vicente Poveda y Juan ‘Taufe in Assisi’ 1899 {{PD}}
Today’s word image is a doe struck and killed by a mini-van, lying in the middle of a busy highway. Unfortunately, this happens when humans and Nature intersect, and in the woodsy area where I live, it’s not unusual. What was unusual about this scene was the stillness of it, a strangely primitive tableaux, the highway emptied of all activity around the deer, the humans gathered and motionless at a slight distance. It struck me almost as a ritual of mourning, a moment taken to grieve what was destroyed, to respect what once lived. If you need to, take a moment to grieve what you’ve lost recently–sometimes in our modern world we forget how important and powerful saying goodbye, or giving thanks for what was, can be.
For those born with the Sun at 18 Scorpio: This coming year, through to your next birthday, you may find yourself with two goals: healing a rift, and pursuing an important goal. Where you find yourself actually, though, may be between the figurative rock and hard place of health concerns and matters ignored or denied; these require attention before you can successfully mend what’s broken, and fulfill that ambition–but once you do attend to these, follow ideals and dreams for the most effective approach to aim attainment. Good luck, Scorpio, and Happy Birthday!
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Hello Julie,
My rising sign is also Aquarius (Sun in Aries, Moon in Cap, Venus in Pisces, Mercury in Taurus, Mars in Leo, Jupiter in Aries…), which is my father’s Sun sign.
I remember hearing/reading that it’s not uncommon to have one’s ascendant in the Sun sign of one of the two parents, would that be correct? And, if so, is there a particular meaning to it, please?
I’d be ever so grateful for any insight you may wish to offer on the matter 🙂
Blessings,
Alecs xox
Hi Alecs,
Though there are usually significant contacts between parents and children (as there are with all major relationships an individual might have) there is no definitive pattern for contact between the charts of parents and their offspring–so though one’s Ascendant could be the same as one or both parents’ Sun signs (there’s a one-in-twelve chance, after all, which drops to one-in-six if you count both parents and look for a correspondence to just one of them–please feel free to correct my odds if they’re wrong!) there’s no reason this contact would be any more likely than any other.
When the ASC of the child is the same as the Sun sign of the parent, the child may model his or her personality on this parent, or may see certain facets of this parent’s personality, and may respond by developing the same characteristics or another version of them, keyed to that sign (for instance, with Aquarius, the parent may be an intellectual, steeped in the academic, while the child may follow that parental model, or may assume the course of a rebel, wanting the system to change in the belief that the thought supporting it needs refreshing, or the child may reject academia all together, avoiding formal education in favor of something she or he sees as original or ground-breaking); the parent, on the other hand, may see this child as a kind of social extension of the Self, seeing so much of her or his own Soul impetus (the Sun) in the personality of the child, possibly identifying with them or seeking to shape the way they interact with the world, and this is a contact that likely brings pride in the child to the parent (or, conversely, if the parent has significant Self-dislike, he or she may project that on the child). If you use Placidus, there’s a chance the Sun is in either 12th or 1st of the child, suggesting that the identification may be more unconscious or spiritually-oriented (the 12th, and above the ASC) or physical or identity keyed (the 1st, and below the ASC); if you use Whole Sign (which I do now), that puts the parent’s Sun in the child’s 1st House (with the unconscious tendencies amplified if the Sun falls above the ASC), making the connections much more conscious generally–and so much more inclined to be openly copied or to openly show other facets of the sign.
Thanks for offering such a great question, Alecs!
All the best,
jd
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