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Revisiting the Neptune/Chiron Effect

13 Tuesday Apr 2010

Posted by juliedemboski in Chiron, Consciousness Explored, current events in the sky, future events in the sky, Neptune

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Martyrdom of Saints Crispin and Crispinian by van den Bossche 1494 {{PD}}

The long-lasting Neptune/ Chiron conjunction has put us all through the wringer, and will continue for some time yet. They come close to connecting precisely once again in Fall 2010 but manage, only minutes apart, to never quite meet; once both are direct, Chiron takes off with nary a backward glance for his one-time dance partner. We may see a slowly, steadily, insidiously building tension between the two energies through that November time frame, so I thought it wouldn’t hurt to reprint an article first published in May of 2009 (with slight modifications-read the original with comments here https://juliedemboski.wordpress.com/2009/05/12/neptune-chiron-projection-hurt-and-ownership/), to remind us all of where we’ve been, and where we still, for a while, might have to go. The Dark of the Moon is the perfect time to consider things we might want to absorb as much at a subconscious level as a conscious one, so that the ideas will work subtly to shape our attitudes and interactions. Here it is:

When Chiron and Neptune entered each other’s orb, we began to experience an ongoing test of our connection to reality. True, everyone has areas they’d rather not look at too closely, places in our lives where we keep our perceptions in soft focus around the edges. I’m not speaking of those things we accept or let pass or don’t inspect too minutely, out of an already full life plate, or the simple reluctance to admit something isn’t perfect–that’s not only human, it’s probably vital to healthy functioning, as we could be easily overwhelmed by too much detail, too many things to ‘fix.’ I’m talking about those few of us with a relational disconnect in the overall world view, where the individual’s idea of who they are, and who others are, is deeply and fundamentally off.

This conjunction was early on imbued with both a spirit of Self and aggression and a mentality that framed dissonance as a personal power struggle, with the transits of both Mars and Juno to this combo (Feb-Mar 2009).

The energy became more prominent as Jupiter neared the conjunction of Chiron/ Neptune; its presence boosts the need to project, to broadcast, related ideas and concepts as a means of expressing one’s belief in them, and thereby, at least to the mind that’s confused, proving their validity–it’s a Self-righteous energy that feeds on belief/ faith in an ideal that does not correlate to the reality picture. Jupiter also brings in the social element, the possibility of reaching out and imposing the ideas in the social sphere, again as an expression of their ‘truth’–“I wouldn’t be able to say this publicly if it weren’t true!”

The big problem with all of this is, Chiron and Neptune both hold expression pitfalls for those who are prone to fantasy, delusion, obfuscation, as the conjunction marries the urge to embrace illusion with the primal wound, the sense of hurt that, if left unclaimed and unexplored by the individual, becomes ripe for projection, and that is essentially what we’ve been seeing the past few months, an insistent sense of victimhood which has taken (temporary) hold of a dispiriting few.

How do we sort ‘true’ victims (as there are those who suffer legitimately at the hands of others) from those who have simply taken the worldview that they are victims, fueled by the easy Self-empathy of a complete mis-perception of role, actions, or intents? One easy way is to ask, where does this person ‘live’? Is their sense of Self seated in a me (or us) v. them mentality, where they are ‘done to,’ where others have bad intent, where they are a crusader for good and right in the face of those who are insensitive bullies? In this regard, anyone who disowns the potential to be the aggressor themselves becomes a candidate.

This is not, on its own, definitive, as there certainly are bullies, insensitive louts, and those who mean us harm, and sometimes the world does divide up into sides. There are other factors that distinguish those who are suffering under this transit (and suffer they do, as the pain they feel is real–the problem comes with their clear misunderstanding of where it originates). One distinguishing trait is, they are the aggressor–they pick the fight, typically based on an indignant reaction to what someone else has said or done that violates their delusional sense of Self. Often this has been sought out–the Neptune-challenged individual goes looking for a savior, or at least someone to support their fantasy Self, and when the mirror the other person holds up doesn’t show them the illusion they expect–well it must be that person’s fault, right there–the reflection is wrong, the mirror is wrong, and the person holding the mirror is wrong–because, they firmly believe, it couldn’t be them–in fact, that’s a basic assumption they enter the situation with, that in no way are they misguided, or have anything to learn–a real irony when the situation is a teaching or guidance one.

It’s also common that the person they choose to blame is someone ‘safe,’ someone who will likely not reject them, or who is not involved in the real problem. It’s almost a form of scapegoating, the ancient practice of designating someone or something as the carrier of all the village’s problems and sins, and then driving the bearer out of town–in this case the ‘village’ being the Neptune-influenced individual, who does not recognize the internal schism that prevents acknowledging the problem as their own.

How do you know when you are dealing with someone thus afflicted? “You think” may be the first words of many of their sentences–they speak as if they’re psychic (Neptune, again!) and yet what you’re hearing has no relation to what’s actually in your mind or heart–and you quickly discover that contradicting them brings out the emotional flood, anger or hurt, one and the same. They come at you claiming a wound, blaming the hurt on you, and yet this doesn’t make sense–it’s like they’ve set off huge emotional smoke bombs, deflecting attention from the real source of upset, determined to extract energy, attention, and penance from the accused–and if you’re the accused, you may think they have a point–until you realize that you are not reacting from emotion, or a need to Self-defend, and that even offered apologies or clear explanations as to your intent are ignored–the individual has a stake in taking a stance that demands you accept their indignation, and that you be responsible for their hurt, even if it doesn’t make sense, and it’s the one-sided, punishing nature of the interaction that is your biggest and best clue that this person is under the Neptune/ Chiron spell, using you as a screen for projection and Self-justification. Even those who claim to speak for the oppressed can be subject to this–for just as likely that they are correct in their remarks is the possibility that they are taking a passive-aggressive tack toward judgment and blame, typically engaging in precisely what they accuse others of.

It’s a sad situation; it can bring to ruin perfectly good relationships, as the Neptune individual does not, will not, cannot allow themselves to see the imperfection in their reasoning–as that would require a release of the illusion of victimhood–and right now, for them, that just feels too good, too safe, and perhaps is the only way they can feel right.

And to those who may feel injury at the hands of others, it’s good to remember, that no one can injure you without your consent.

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See my book on Chiron here http://dogandsunflower.wordpress.com

Today’s Link: On healing http://www.kathryncassidy.com/articles/unhealed_wounds.cfm and this on Chiron/ Neptune/ Jupiter http://content.yudu.com/Library/A182p1/TheTripleConjunction/resources/index.htm?referrerUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yudu.com%2Fitem%2Fdetails%2F57651%2FThe-Triple-Conjunction-of-Jupiter-Chiron-and-Neptune-2009-Explained both by the great Kathryn Cassidy.

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Neptune-Chiron: Projection, Hurt, and Ownership

12 Tuesday May 2009

Posted by juliedemboski in astrology, Chiron, Consciousness Explored, current events in the sky, Neptune

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The Martyrdom of Saint Sebastian by Honore Daumier

The Martyrdom of Saint Sebastian by Honore Daumier

At least since December, when Chiron and Neptune entered each other’s orb, we’ve seen an ongoing test of our connection to reality. Now, everyone has areas they’d rather not look at too closely, places in our lives where we keep our perceptions in soft focus around the edges. I’m not speaking of those things we accept or let pass or don’t inspect too minutely, out of an already full life plate, or the simple reluctance to admit something isn’t perfect–that’s not only human, it’s probably vital to healthy functioning, as we could be easily overwhelmed by too much detail, too many things to ‘fix.’ I’m talking about those few of us with a relational disconnect in the overall world view, where the individual’s idea of who they are, and who others are, is deeply and fundamentally off.

This conjunction was early on imbued with both a spirit of Self and aggression and a mentality that framed dissonance as a personal power struggle, with the transits of both Mars and Juno to this combo.

The energy became more prominent as Jupiter neared the conjunction of Chiron/ Neptune; its presence boosts the need to project, to broadcast, related ideas and concepts as a means of expressing one’s belief in them, and thereby, at least to the mind that’s confused, proving their validity–it’s a Self-righteous energy that feeds on belief/ faith in an ideal that does not correlate to the reality picture. Jupiter also brings in the social element, the possibility of reaching out and imposing the ideas in the social sphere, again as an expression of their ‘truth’–“I wouldn’t be able to say this publicly if it weren’t true!”

The big problem with all of this is, Chiron and Neptune both hold expression pitfalls for those who are prone to fantasy, delusion, obfuscation, as the conjunction marries the urge to embrace illusion with the primal wound, the sense of hurt that, if left unclaimed and unexplored by the individual, becomes ripe for projection, and that is essentially what we’ve been seeing the past few months, an insistent sense of victimhood which has taken (temporary) hold of a dispiriting few.

How do we sort ‘true’ victims (as there are those who suffer legitimately at the hands of others) from those who have simply taken the worldview that they are victims, fueled by the easy Self-empathy of a complete mis-perception of role, actions, or intents? One easy way is to ask, where does this person ‘live’? Is their sense of Self seated in a me (or us) v. them mentality, where they are ‘done to,’ where others have bad intent, where they are a crusader for good and right in the face of those who are insensitive bullies? In this regard, anyone who disowns the potential to be the aggressor themselves becomes a candidate.

This is not, on its own, definitive, as there certainly are bullies, insensitive louts, and those who mean us harm, and sometimes the world does divide up into sides. There are other factors that distinguish those who are suffering under this transit (and suffer they do, as the pain they feel is real–the problem comes with their clear misunderstanding of where it originates). One distinguishing trait is, they are the aggressor–they pick the fight, typically based on an indignant reaction to what someone else has said or done that violates their delusional sense of Self. Often this has been sought out–the Neptune-challenged individual goes looking for a savior, or at least someone to support their fantasy Self, and when the mirror the other person holds up doesn’t show them the illusion they expect–well it must be that person’s fault, right there–the reflection is wrong, the mirror is wrong, and the person holding the mirror is wrong–because, they firmly believe, it couldn’t be them–in fact, that’s a basic assumption they enter the situation with, that in no way are they misguided, or have anything to learn–a real irony when the situation is a teaching or guidance one.

It’s also common that the person they choose to blame is someone ‘safe,’ someone who will likely not reject them, or who is not involved in the real problem. It’s almost a form of scapegoating, the ancient practice of designating someone or something as the carrier of all the village’s problems and sins, and then driving the bearer out of town–in this case the ‘village’ being the Neptune-influenced individual, who does not recognize the internal schism that prevents acknowledging the problem as their own.

How do you know when you are dealing with someone thus afflicted? “You think” may be the first words of many of their sentences–they speak as if they’re psychic (Neptune, again!) and yet what you’re hearing has no relation to what’s actually in your mind or heart–and you quickly discover that contradicting them brings out the emotional flood, anger or hurt, one and the same. They come at you claiming a wound, blaming the hurt on you, and yet this doesn’t make sense–it’s like they’ve set off huge emotional smoke bombs, deflecting attention from the real source of upset, determined to extract energy, attention, and penance from the accused–and if you’re the accused, you may think they have a point–until you realize that you are not reacting from emotion, or a need to Self-defend, and that even offered apologies or clear explanations as to your intent are ignored–the individual has a stake in taking a stance that demands you accept their indignation, and that you be responsible for their hurt, even if it doesn’t make sense, and it’s the one-sided, punishing nature of the interaction that is your biggest and best clue that this person is under the Neptune/ Chiron spell, using you as a screen for projection and Self-justification. Even those who claim to speak for the oppressed can be subject to this–for just as likely that they are correct in their remarks is the possibility that they are taking a passive-aggressive tack toward judgment and blame, typically engaging in precisely what they accuse others of.

It’s a sad situation; it can bring to ruin perfectly good relationships, as the Neptune individual does not, will not, cannot allow themselves to see the imperfection in their reasoning–as that would require a release of the illusion of victimhood–and right now, for them, that just feels too good, too safe, and perhaps is the only way they can feel right.

And to those who may feel injury at the hands of others, it’s good to remember, that no one can injure you without your consent.

You may want to check out several of the excellent posts here http://questionofmindfulness.wordpress.com/ as they touch on the same topic, and offer some facets I might have missed.

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Idealism in Action

09 Saturday May 2009

Posted by juliedemboski in aspects and placements, astrology, Chiron, Consciousness Explored, Mars, natal placement, Neptune, Pallas

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Hunger strike, Mia Farrow, Neptune, Richard Branson

Two interesting and dynamic individuals take a stand http://wonderwall.msn.com/movies/mia-farrow-ends-fast–richard-branson-takes-her-place-1514520.story/?gt1=28145  I’ve written on both Farrow and Branson before; now I’ll post both charts and add extended remarks later. We can note, though, that both have that behemoth of idealism, Neptune, in Libra (others, or acting as a partner); Farrow has a natal Neptune/Chiron conjunction, perhaps stimulated now by the current Neptune/ Chiron union in Aquarius (group welfare, trine by sign), while Branson has a Mars/ Neptune conjunction, signalling the willingness to act on ideals. Farrow may be motivated as much by intense empathy as by anything else (Chiron), while Branson embodies the true activist whose actions follow his principles.

Both have a ‘warrior’ energy, he through Mars, she through a Pallas conjunction to the Chiron/ Neptune combo, and both have these idealism in action significators below the horizon, suggesting personal, internal motivations behind their efforts.

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Richard Branson

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States of Being: Moon v. Neptune

12 Thursday Mar 2009

Posted by juliedemboski in astrology, Consciousness Explored, Moon, Neptune

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Sometimes we tend to lump all states ‘not conscious’ into one category; after all, if we’re not aware of them, what’s the difference? True, to some extent, and in some situations the concepts are interchangeable, though when we look closely, we notice some potentially big variations between the unconscious (Moon) and subconscious (Neptune).

I like to sort it out by thinking of the subconscious as containing material that’s close to retrieval, that in fact may have been gained consciously, or at least during a conscious state, and then stored, ignored, or ‘forgotten.’ These are things that motivate us, often with the (subconscious) intent of bringing the information or connection to the surface of the mind. Neptune represents this form of information storage; think of a wall shrouded by fog–that wall is plenty real when we run into it! And no less solid just because we can’t see it. If we ‘feel around’ we may find and identify the wall before it becomes a problem. We access it in dreams, reveries, creative and imaginative activities, and in the Collective emotional atmosphere; with the latter element we feel it in the air all around us. It’s the tenor of the times, showing us things about ourselves via a mechanism where our attention is drawn to those external items and incidents that are also part of our own internal state. This is the way we use the idea that ‘We are the Collective, and the Collective is Us.’ clem_earth_moon

With what’s unconscious, we are, for all practical purposes, disassociated from the material. It’s a ‘What, me?’ mindset, one that can be the source of very strong (and basic) motivations, but which carries no obvious connection to the thoughts or the life, at least for the individual; onlookers may see the patterns that spring from unconscious material quite clearly, however. It seems that what we cannot, for whatever reason, cradle consciously within the emotional reality, we must place in that portion of the Moon that contains the unconscious, a psychic version of the physics axiom that energy is never lost, it just changes form. In this case it disappears, but it’s influence is felt, though camouflaged in such a way that we do not recognize ourselves as the source. This information is difficult to access, only because there are usually reasons of Self-protection and need for a sense of psychic or mental/ emotional safety that caused us to place these perceptions where we did in the first place.

We can gain insight into the Moon’s unconscious aspects through the energies it aspects in the natal chart and its placement, through those who perform a Lunar function for us, or for whom we serve this function, in the matters of the House with Cancer on the cusp, and in some functions of the planets and points associated with Cancer in the chart. We might also, in a very subtle way, get a glimpse of this material just by looking below the horizon of the horoscope; this shows us what energies we may be more identified with, or that we may keep as assumptions about ourselves, and in this way they can link to either the subconscious of Neptune or the unconscious of the Moon.

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The Fabric of the Spirit

19 Thursday Feb 2009

Posted by juliedemboski in astrology, Chiron, Midheaven, Neptune, Sun

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astrology, Chiron, Jude Cowell, Jude Hill, Midheaven, Neptune, Sun, the spirit

the whole concept was too forced, too much trying to be artful. not enough about the fabric. i don’t want to be influenced by showmanship. i don’t want to be tricky or mysterious. i want to make cloth. i want to make things useful and touchable and real. i want to be true to the storyline and let it make sense for me… to help me undo the confusion that has built up in me over the last few years about what i am doing.

Jude Hill, from ‘undoing pretense’ at Spirit Cloth http://spiritcloth.typepad.com/

If we replace the words ‘fabric’ and ‘make cloth’ with ‘Soul’s intent’ and ‘live,’ then we have a graceful description of the individual effort to actualize the life, to make spirit conscious and allow it to direct our choices and actions, and all of it done seamlessly, so to speak. The final phrase speaks of the desire to move out of confusion, a state which is the antithesis of connecting the actions to spirit, and the earliest words talk of the initial attempts to create that are artificial, trying too much for an effect that reflects standards that are not one’s own; both are the experience of every Soul who looks too much outside the Self for praise, feedback, encouragement, motivation.

Where do we find the spirit in the chart? Everywhere, of course, with each aspect and placement representing the Beingness as seen from a particular angle, through a particular lens. Is any planet or planetary placement more divinely connected than another? No, though there are those who tend to see placements as more or less spiritually inclined, more or less material or physical–but if God is in all things, seen and unseen, then material needs are intertwined with spiritual ones, and we see no difference, when we look from the viewpoint of the Soul.

We can get a glimpse of the Soul’s intent through every planet and point, but there are a few that traditionally give their message more directly: the Sun, Neptune, Chiron, the Midheaven. The Sun embodies the Soul’s Purpose in incarnating, it’s sign a description of the affinity it holds most prominently in this lifetime. When we study the Sun, we must be aware that all the signs have a presence in each chart, and thus that the entire spectrum of energies and attitudes is available to each of us; it’s a mistake to say, “That’s not in him,” or “She would never,” for there is always the chance of a situation that calls the forbidden, exiled, or ignored energy forward.

Neptune represents our connection to the cosmic, and its placement and aspects describe our place within the Collective, as does the Midheaven; what we make of this concerning the spirit, though, may never really show on the outside–and it’s important to remember that those who wear their Neptune on the outside aren’t necessarily more spiritual than those who hold it on the inside. Among the circumstances of Neptune, the Midheaven, and the Sun, we can often sort out the spiritual life storyline, akin to what’s sought in the quote above, always keeping in mind that anything we see can exist on the inside (within the spirit), on the outside (in the role or function), or both.

And what of Chiron? This is at once a direct pipeline to the tenderest, most vulnerable spot in the individual, and the most absolutely unique skill and talents of the individual, and the uniqueness of the manifestation of each is such that this placement is almost impossible to define completely from outside the life; only a perspective from within the individual’s consciousness can hope to define Chiron’s role and parse it out from within the camouflage provided by other energies. Chiron among all the energies is the only one that can be best defined in detail by the person who owns it.

We work to fuse the parts of the horoscope, seamlessly, integrating them into a picture that is complete and successfully explains all that is within; are we able to? Probably not; we are too complex to have our essence picked apart, labeled, and reassembled in some semblance of completeness. But as long as we have the desire to be as true to ourselves as we are in our most natural state, true to the inclinations of the spirit, and with a recognition that the material that surrounds us may be equally of the spirit, then we have a chance to create something unique to ourselves, a life that will not be forced according to fashion or pretense, and will not fall to confusion, but will be seeded with the spirit truest to who and what we are.

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Jeremy Piven and Mercury Poisoning

21 Sunday Dec 2008

Posted by juliedemboski in aspects and placements, astrology, Mercury, Neptune, Pluto

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Actor Jeremy Piven (26 July 1965 Manhattan NY USA no time available) last week left performing in David Mamet’s ‘Speed the Plow’ on Broadway due to what was found to be Mercury poisoning. It’s rare, now that the Borgias are out of business, to hear of a poisoning case, and even more so to hear of one involving material that has a planetary namesake. Using a random noon birth time I took a look at Mr. Piven’s natal chart, with an eye toward anything that might say ‘poison’; with no way to accurately determine angles, we are significantly hampered in terms of natal predisposition; in other words, we have no way of seeing whether Mercury poisoning was a potential event for him that could’ve been anticipated, though transits perhaps signal that ‘now’ is the logical time for this to come forward for anyone subjected to heavy consumption (more than once daily) of sushi and other forms of fish, as was Mr. Piven’s habit.jeremy-piven-transits-19-dec

I set the transit chart for Friday the 19th, as I believe this is when the news was announced, and we see that the transiting Moon was entering Libra on that day; with Mercury at 28 Leo 30 in the natal chart, the Moon has just semi-sextiled it, and goes on to square Pluto at oo Capricorn. Of course, we can’t help but notice that transiting Pluto has in recent months trined natal Mercury; perhaps when it first moved within orb of Mercury was the initial, serious adoption of the diet regimen that resulted in the poison build-up–but that’s just speculation. Pluto’s transiting trine to Mercury, if we want to be quite literal, could suggest a destruction/ transformation of the nervous system, to the efficiency of the lungs, and to a slowing of the reflexes (the Mercurial ‘quickness’) all of which are symptoms of Mercury poisoning.

Or should we be looking at Neptune, with it’s ability to hide effects indefinitely, to represent the liquidity of Mercury in general and the potential for another, more insidious kind of poisoning, the ‘fading away’ that comes with many slow, cumulative poisons? Certainly it represents the source of the poison, the oceans and their edible inhabitants. Transiting Neptune is (if we’re generous with orbs) within opposition range of natal Mercury; perhaps both Neptune and Pluto play complementary roles in the poisoning scenario, with the transiting Sun’s approach and conjunction to Pluto shining a light on it in a ‘big reveal.’

Natally, Mercury has only two aspects, a conjunction to Venus (blood sugar) in Virgo (health and diet) and a semi-square to Mars (muscle and blood itself) in Libra (ruled by Venus, and where it’s very weak), so we might not be surprised to find Mercury linked to health issues for Mr. Piven. Mercury’s ruler, the Sun, is posited in its own sign of Leo, and this may suggest possible muscle, and particularly heart, damage as a result of this crisis; this is supported by Pluto as it nears quincunx to the natal Sun, and by the transiting South Node as it sweeps toward conjunction–both imply that damage inflicted in the past may come to light.

I wish Mr. Piven well, and also a speedy and (hopefully) complete recovery; for the rest of us, it’s a useful lesson in going to extremes, dietarily or otherwise.

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Monday Poll Round-Up, Past and Present Collide, and the Fog Rolls In

17 Monday Nov 2008

Posted by juliedemboski in aspects and placements, astrology, current events in the sky, Mercury, Neptune, Pluto

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We only had one poll this week, ‘Is Love or Money your big ‘danger area’ with Venus in Capricorn?’ As of this morning, 28% say Love, 33% say Money, and a puzzling 39% are looking forward to this, as their natal Venus is in Earth; and I say this is puzzling, as we might expect more like 25% of readers to have Earth Venus placements. So what does this say? Maybe that people who are practical and concerned about concrete Venusian issues read astrology blogs out-of-proportion to their Airy, Watery, and Fiery counterparts.

I’ve had some intense, jarring experiences in the last few days where past and present have met in some unusual and intriguing symbolisms. People I haven’t thought of in years have popped into my head (or my dreams!) and the same seems to be happening to people around me–and I’m assuming, to you, too. What’s driving this? Perhaps Pluto at 29 of Sagittarius, exorcising the distant past, and conveying information about the now at the same time–if All is One, and there is no time in a linear sense, then a window is open that allows us to connect and synthesize elements of the past as they apply to the future, surely a delicious opportunity for understanding and acquisition of knowledge.

The Cancer Moon today (the 17th) quincunxes Pluto, suggesting that the emotional implications of the past and present reconciling will be at the forefront of our emotional reality; the Moon will also trine the Sun, then, when it enters Leo, trine Mars at 00 Sagittarius, and what action we might take will come clear. On the 21st the Earth perfects a quincunx to Pluto, bringing the material impact of all this Plutonian dredging and examining into focus (would that we could see this first, then receive the Mars/ Moon impetus to act, but ours is not to question why  . . . ) The upcoming Sun/ Mercury Superior Conjunction on the 24th brings the final message–believe what is communicated at this point, as it will be the key to finishing up with Sag issues successfully.

The fog rolls in–literally, as it has done here in Seattle, and figuratively, with the Mercury/ Neptune square. We know the drill here, know all the keywords that can describe Neptune’s effect on communication, information, short-distance travel, sibling relationships, and so on, so how do we determine which one of the scary (delusion, illusion, deception) or uplifting (inspirational, idealized, dream fulfilled) banners should be hung on Mercury for us as individuals? It’s elementary, dear Watson: look at the emotions behind the messages (Merc in Water) and the ways in which they clash with our ‘mental pictures’ (Neptune in Air). A secondary method involves looking to the positions of transiting Merc and Neptune in the natal chart, noting what they may be aspecting (anything at approx. 19-23 degrees of Air and Water signs, plus the ‘off’ measurements of the quincunx and semi-square)–if this puts at least one of them in hard (conjunction, square, semi-square, opposition, quincunx) aspect to something in the natal chart, then your message and meaning come here–and don’t forget, this is a conflict-meeting of the rulers of several Houses in the natal chart–look here, too, for meaning. If you’re having trouble, describe the situation of the transiting planets in your chart in the comments section (not to my email!) and I’ll see what I can see!

And in the meantime, have a great Monday!

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More on Mars/ Neptune: What Drives Creative Action?

03 Wednesday Sep 2008

Posted by juliedemboski in aspects and placements, astrology, Mars, Moon, Neptune, Vesta

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Mars, Napoleon Bonaparte, Neptune, William Blake

As promised, we’ll now look further into what makes Mars/ Neptune a driving force within the natal horoscope. One thing we must understand is that, as with any aspect, just having it in the chart doesn’t guarantee a particular outcome, event, or level of manifestation; and this prompts us to look for what factors may distinguish the chart where the creative impulse to action is extraordinary from the chart where it manifests in a more moderate way, likely overwhelmed by some other factor.

It’s easy to see Mars/ Neptune when it reaches a high level of manifestation in the life of an artist; a perfect case in point is artist, visionary, and writer William Blake (28 November 1757, 7:45 PM LMT, London England). A trained engraver, Blake left his native London only once in his entire life. One of eight siblings, Blake’s family was steeped in mysticism and to a lesser extent, politics, and this permeates his creations–and they must be called ‘creations,’ as his illustrations, engravings, poetry, and prose present an otherworldly perception that reflects his Mars/ Neptune conjunction in Leo, succinctly defined as acting for the glory of God and the Self as creative forces. A Placidus House chart puts Neptune in the 1st and Mars in the 2nd, and we see this as, after a seven year apprenticeship, Blake opened his own engraving and printing shop in the hope of generating income (2nd) to sustain the publications of his personal visions (1st), but he was never able to create a steady flow of income. Perhaps it was the darkness and chaos of his vision (Mars/ Neptune trine Pluto in Fire), or the way he would not compromise his vision or action (Mars/ Neptune opposed Vesta and Saturn), that lead to an inevitable suppression of popularity. The vision and the action to reveal the Cosmic vision (Neptune) were sacred to Blake, and choices based on this might have made Blake feel oppressed or otherwise disregarded (Vesta/ Saturn). He chose to communicate through words and images–Mercury in Water squares Vesta, perpetually stirring conflict between the need to communicate and commune and the need to respect and revere that which he saw as sacred. We have a clue in Mercury’s Water placement as to the driving force behind the impetus to communicate: emotion, and find a 29 degree Cancer Ascendant and a 12th House Cancer Moon sesquiquadrate Mercury as highly descriptive of the ’emotional engine’ behind Blake’s work.

It may be more interesting, though, to inspect the charts of those who were highly creative in fields other than the Arts, and it’s illuminating to note how this aspect manifests repeatedly through families; the state of the aspect picture is often directly indicative of the impact (or lack of it) of the individual along the outlines of accomplishments in the family vein. We see the Mars/ Neptune aspect in significant numbers of family members in the industrialist/ Fiat Agnellis and the shoe manufacturing Ferragamos, but I thought the Bonaparte family offered a good example of the way an aspect that can power greatness (of a kind) in one family member can be less than stellar (that’s an astrology joke!) in another.

Napoleon I (15 August 1769, 11:30 AM LMT, Ajaccio Corsica), who set out to conquer Europe and very nearly succeeded (and who believed himself to be the reincarnation of Alexander the Great), had Mars conjunct Neptune in Virgo in the 10th of public reputation and career (and we musn’t forget that the public nature of the 10th can translate career as ‘one’s impact on the world’). The conjunction shares the 10th with Pallas, the Sun, and Ceres, all in Leo. Our attention then jumps to the Moon at 29 degrees of Capricorn, with Saturn ruling the 3rd and the Moon ruling the 9th–this man had the emotional imperative to conquer something! Conjunction ruler Mercury in Leo and Moon ruler Saturn in Cancer (thus placing the Moon and Saturn in Mutual Reception) oppose the Moon, and here is the fuel for the creative engine, the accomplishments manifesting in the 10th arena. We should also note the exact conjunction of the South Node and Vesta–whether this stems from a former life as Alexander or not, this man felt his past was sacred, and perhaps felt a compulsive desire to duplicate it; clearly he identified with it, as SN/ Vesta sextiles the Sun/ Ceres exact conjunction exactly!

His son, Napoleon II (20 March 1811, 9:00 AM LMT, Paris France), known as the ‘KIng of Rome,’ also has a Mars/ Neptune conjunction, also conjunct Vesta, in the 6th of everyday duties–so he likely found the life of a ruler a sacred one, but was only moderately fired up about it (another astology joke!) with placement in the Mutable Fire of Sagittarius. Napoleon II’s Moon is also of note: at 00 Aquarius, widely sextile Nars/ Neptune, and involved in an out of sign Grand Trine with Jupiter and Earth. He clearly had the desire to affect the world, but his chart lacks the assertive outward impetus of his father’s.

The aspect skips a generation and surfaces once again in the chart of Napoleon IV (16 March 1856, 3:30 AM LMT, Paris France). He has a Libran Mars in the 8th of other people’s resources and interests quincunx Piscean Neptune in the 2nd, where it is also conjunct the Sun and Pisces’ ancient ruler, Jupiter. Here the Cancer Moon is exactly trine the Pisces Sun; this can make for a very emotionally satisfied individual–so we can surmise that emotional need was unlikely to be fuel for this Mars/ Neptune. Almost all the chart energies (exceptions: South Node/ Mars conjunction, Earth, and Moon) are below the horizon, making for a nature that processes experiences and the world largely internally; but, with Mars above the horizon, we may see someone who must show himself to be personally assertive, whether he truly has interest in this or not. This is exactly what we see in his demise: Napoleon IV literally acted out the Warrior, meeting his death fighting the Zulus at the Battle of Ulundi, and bringing to an end the hopes of those who still wished to restore a Bonaparte to rule in France.

What might we tentatively conclude from this brief study? We could guess that the state of the Moon, as well as the significant presence of Vesta, could be instrumental in utilizing a Mars/ Neptune contact to the fullest. It’s a starting point that may emphasize the necessity for emotional involvement and a sense of awe/ the sacred in successfully realizing life potentials.

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Inspiration vs. Perspiration–Your Mars/ Neptune Balance

09 Saturday Aug 2008

Posted by juliedemboski in aspects and placements, astrology, Chiron, Mars, Neptune

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Antoni Gaudi, Mars, Neptune

Though innumerable factors weigh into one’s success, it’s arguable that the ratio of effort to inspiration can make the difference between spinning one’s wheels, on the one hand, and ideas that never come to fruition, on the other. I see it all the time; there are people who work mightily who can’t seem to achieve, and those who believe it’s all in having the ‘right’ idea or attitude, who are puzzled as to why their plan for, say, potato chips on a stick hasn’t taken off. They’ll ask me why their great idea hasn’t caught fire; they’ve spread it around, and they don’t know why others haven’t done the development, publicity, and marketing work for them! Those at the other extreme barely look up from the grindstone long enough to notice whether all that work is producing sweat equity or just sweat. Astrologically, one of the best ways to gauge the way we naturally approach the effort/ inspiration balance is by inspection of the state of Mars and Neptune. These two bodies don’t have to be in aspect to deliver their power; but they do have to be used, preferably in a way that has them both working on a positive wavelength.

A good example of an effectively used Mars/ Neptune is found in the chart of Spanish architect and visionary artist Antoni Gaudi (25 June 1852, 9:30 AM LMT, Reus Spain). The man who was instrumental in fashioning Barcelona’s distinctive style of mosaic-laden construction of undulant, flowing lines devoted his energy almost exclusively to his work; he never married, and spent a notable period wandering the streets, begging alms for construction of his unfinished masterwork, the Familia Sagrada cathedral. Gaudi was known, as you may have guessed, for his eccentric personality, and for his outbursts–with a Virgo Ascendant and Mars rising, he was his temper! Mars opposes his 7th House Piscean Neptune, and here we can look at the ways this energy might have gone. With an opposition the two energies often start out at odds; many people bounce from one end of the opposition to the other, in this case possibly manifesting as action for action’s sake alternating with dreamy reveries, with the difficulty coming in marrying the imagination to implementation in the real world. Once these two began to find a way to work together, Mars could begin to shine in its command of detail (and what’s more detailed than a building covered in mosaic?) and Neptune could come to full creative bloom in its own sign.

Mars is part of an Earth Grand Trine involving Uranus in Taurus and the South Node in Capricorn; clearly, the impetus for action was focused on a material result. The GT reaches from the 1st to the 5th and the 9th, and connects personal endeavor with creativity and, in the 9th, both the exotic and religion, with Gaudi’s most famous creation being a church. Mars also trines Earth, Saturn, and Pluto, and sextiles the Sun, besides opposing Neptune. These contacts suggest that the ‘I will’ and action urge enjoyed excellent support; the material world, the propensity to build, the ability to destroy or dig deep in order to create, and the Soul intent all worked in concert with the ego and assertive urge.

Neptune, planet of creative imagination, communion with the Cosmos, and illusion/ delusion brings in some varied influences, notably a quincunx to the 2nd House Libra Moon, suggesting that the emotions needed to adjust to the creative urge, and vice versa, an opposition to Jupiter that perhaps shows some of the difficulty he had getting his creations accepted by the public as legitimate architecture, a sesquiquadrate  to Pallas that implies he probably did best when he accepted some modifications according to guidance received, and a quincunx to Ceres that require some adjustment to the wishes of authorities. Neptune also trines the Sun, making the Soul an excellent creative conduit, and trines the North Node–this latter is involved with Neptune in a Water Grand Trine with Jupiter, and could indicate what an enormous place creative expression held for Antoni; it was likely somewhere between an emotional imperative (Water) and a religious belief (Jupiter).

Lastly we might note in Gaudi’s chart Chiron in the House of deepest Self, the 4th, at 00 Capricorn, conjunct 5th House Earth and South Node, also in Cap. The 00 placement indicates a strong impetus to actualize the energy, to get to know it, and in Capricorn the wound may have involved structure, Self-discipline, or thwarted attempts to build, either literal or figurative, perhaps springing from the family of origin (4th) and incorporated into the psyche. Connection to Earth and the South Node say that both the wound, and the Cap-related gift, have been ‘earned’ in the past, and need to manifest in the material surroundings; that says that Gaudi’s fantastical creations were more to him than just decorated constructions–they may have been quite literal representations of the workings of his creative mind.

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Leaping Into the Hand of God

03 Thursday Apr 2008

Posted by juliedemboski in Chiron, current events in the sky, Neptune, North Node

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In the dream I am riding a motorcycle, very very fast, racing with another rider who is on my left, but he is unable to catch me. The road is little more than a blacktop path; there are trees on either side, small pines and brush, and it’s as if I can hear people talking, like I’m wearing a headset or bluetooth. I’m flying along and realize there is a river that crosses my path. It runs through the bottom of a very deep canyon, and I know that I have to try and jump, even though as I approach I can see that there is literally no way to land on the other side; the ground is much higher there, with a sheer rock face. I know I must jump, not because I can’t stop (though that would be hard), but because I realize that I want very much to know what will happen. I drive at full speed toward the gorge, and the voices are telling me that there is a way to land successfully; there is a rock extension that juts into the gorge and is invisible until you are practically on it. They say that it’s known as ‘The Hand of God’ and they show me (as only dream voices can!) that it looks like a giant hand, palm up. I think that I will make the leap of faith, just like Indiana Jones when he steps over the abyss and finds a rock bridge. I soar into the air and am able to hang there, searching for the hand, but can’t find it. I somehow seem able to land, though, just short of the other side, without falling into the water, but I’m aware that I don’t really know what happened. The man I’m racing doesn’t fly very far before he tumbles into the river.

I woke up thinking of Neptune, and a quick inspection shows it currently at the midpoint of Chiron and the North Node. It could certainly represent my dream ‘flight,’ perhaps as the inspiration to attempt something that calls for both unique skills (Chiron) and that is part of the destiny, literally the river of life. When I check my own chart for current transits, I find indications that this is about bringing something forward within myself, with Chiron, Neptune, the North Node, the Moon, Uranus, Vesta, and Venus all within my 1st House at present. I also noted, all within one degree orb, Vesta exactly conjunct my natal Moon (the sacred and the emotions/ intuition, perhaps applying to the work, as the Moon rules my 6th); transiting Earth conjunct my Sun (a reverse of my natal axis, offering a Soul and Material Purpose assessment as to how well each is serving the other); Saturn conjunct Pluto (and this is echoed by the transiting trine–best encapsulated by the phrase ‘inevitable change,’ and brings together my 12th and my 9th, the broadcasting of the unconscious, bringing that material out where I can deal with it); Mars square Jupiter (action urge and ego needs conflicting with the requirements of the social arena–this combo also marries my 2nd, 10th, and 11th, bringing together Self-image, income, career, and what I offer the world, with the square suggesting these are at odds); and Ceres opposed the Midheaven, perhaps pitting the internal authority against the public Self.

What does this spell for me? It suggests a rough road in terms of reconciling particular needs, wants, and functions, but I’m thinking the dream is pointing the way out, through the inspired use of skills that move me forward (Neptune, Chiron, NN). Finding new expression that is both personally satisfying and furthers my work or career seems to be the paramount challenge, with some reconciling of the Ceres authority with the public persona–balancing the internal nature goddess with role I play here, on the internet. But what might this dream mean for everyone else? My sense is that taking the inspired course is what a lot of us need right now, trusting that both guidance and the loving hand of God will be there to catch us. It’s not so much that we need to take a leap of faith, as it is that we need a leap of faith centered in our own ability to rise to and meet the challenges presented, that will bring a new level of fulfillment to one personally and publicly. Has anyone else taken a ‘leap’ lately? What special skill did you call forward in taking the ‘leap’? What inspired you? And how did you reconcile the requirements for private, ego, and personal needs with what your public role or career demands of you?

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