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13 November 2018 Finding Lost Objects, Part 2

12 Monday Nov 2018

Posted by juliedemboski in astrology, Horary

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Not an object, but good that he was found! ‘The Finding of Moses’ By Lawrence Alma-Tadema 1904 {{PD}}

Please see yesterday’s post for the initial part of the article. Today is also bare of perfecting aspects, with only a semi-square from the Sun to Saturn suggesting we may be keenly aware of obstacles and rules–try to see that they seem larger than they are, and that’s because our attention is naturally drawn to them right now–and that can make problems appear much bigger than they are.

Our example in the article was drawn with Placidus Houses, but the rules apply to any House system–I only note it because of a mention of intercepted signs, which don’t happen in Whole Sign, which I use now.

We need to note some particular conditions applicable to finding lost items:

·         If we are asking about something ourselves, we are designated by the 1st House, but if we are asking for someone else, we will cast the chart, then ‘turn’ it so that the House that represents that individual from our point of view becomes the 1st. For instance, if we ask about a lost item for our daughter (“Where is my daughter’s passport?”) the 5th House, representing our child, becomes the 1st, and so the significator of the lost item is found in the original 6th, which is the 2nd from the 5th. If, however, we ask and refer to our daughter by name (“Where is Hildegarde’s passport?”) we would designate her as the 7th in the original chart, and so the 8th becomes the house indicating the lost item. This is part of why in all Horary the framing of the question is of such importance. As an astrologer, one frames the question and reads the chart from the question-asker’s point of view. Example: If the person asking the question is named Chloe, the astrologer asks, ‘Where are my (Chloe’s) keys?’ and places Chloe in the 1st House.

·         The first place to look for an object is indicated by the House where the significator of the object is found (so, if the ruler of the 2nd is Mars and it is posited in the 3rd, we would look in those areas represented by the 3rd: a sibling or neighbor may have taken it or know where it is, or it may be in their home, it may be in the garage or in the car, at a store or market, in or on a desk or other place where writing occurs or written materials are kept, in the TV or media room or on one of these appliances, in a hallway, stairway, or other passage, including out in the road or driveway, at a local school or park, or left on a bus or taxi) ; the sign of the significator, as well as its dispositor (ruler) can also give clues, as can the House where the dispositor is found. The House of any indicator often names the physical place (on a shelf, at the dump, in bed) while the sign describes the conditions (Scorpio= wet, marshy, low lying areas, humid places, near plumbing; Aquarius=uneven terrain, dry, literally in the air or hanging somewhere, where it’s breezy–near a window, for instance)–this isn’t a hard and fast separation, though, and lots of variation occurs (the sign pointing to location, for instance, rather than atmosphere). There are lots of possibilities for a significator–part of our job in reading the chart is to think logically about the object, and try to build a picture or three of where it might be from those many possibilities.

·         Directions can be judged from the actual directions in a chart: ASC is due east, MC north, and so on, for charts drawn in the Northern Hemisphere. For the Southern Hemisphere, please see the link in the comments.

·         The signs are of course associated with colors, the most famous probably being Aries’ Martian red. Sometimes colors can help with location, but as with direction, it may not be particularly helpful or necessary in finding a lost object.

·         The Part of Fortune can be useful for locating lost objects. Its location can be read just as are those of the significators and their dispositors, though I find that it will give the most useful information when it is in the same number degree, regardless of sign, as one of the significators. Use the Part of the original chart, even if you turn it to accommodate someone else’s viewpoint.

·         A retrograde planet as significator of the item suggests it will be found or return.

·         If the significator of the lost object is in Virgo, Pisces, the 6th or 12th, or is conjunct Pluto or Neptune, the item is probably tucked out of sight, is hidden, obscured somehow, must be dug for or ‘revealed’, in some way, and sometimes may not be findable.

I decided to use a chart I’d just drawn for a real-life problem: I asked, “Where is my book?” The book I was looking for is the exceptionally useful Horary volume in the March and McEvers’ ‘The Only Way to . . .’ series. I’ve learned a great deal from other volumes on Horary, but theirs is the cleanest and most direct methodology, and never fails me. Though I know what I’m doing in terms of reading the chart, with lost items it helps to have a comprehensive list of possibilities for what a planet, sign, or House might represent, and these are included in their volume and I use those lists as references frequently–the last thing I wanted to do was overlook something useful in explaining things to you, and now the book I needed was nowhere to be found!

The chart is drawn for 27 November 2012 at 10:47 AM PST Seattle, Washington USA. The Ascendant is 18 Capricorn 27, and certainly reflects my serious attitude! Also accurate are the intercepted sign in the 1st (Aquarius, my natal ASC) and the placement of Neptune and Chiron therein, with Neptune signifying my distress and confusion at having looked for two days and not finding it, and Chiron in Pisces probably relating to the fact that I’m trying here to relay my unique skills (Chiron) to you! That Ascendant is safe to judge (though my significator does fall in the ‘fiery way’, perhaps reiterating my stress), the 7th is clear, but uh-oh! The Moon is Void, at 26 Taurus 57, though it is less than 1 degree past conjunction with the South Node. Now this is where the personal discretion of the astrologer comes in: the Nodes are not bodies but points where the Moon’s path crosses the ecliptic–the Nodes identify the most extreme points on this path at any one time–so does this count as the Moon being Void, and so should we abandon the chart right now as unreadable? Not every astrologer uses the Nodes in Horary, and though I do note that they often appear in a House significant to the question, and point in the inevitable direction that the question will evolve (the North Node) I still don’t consistently pay attention to them in Horary–but sometimes they become prominent, as here.

When I hit something so iffy that I end up not being sure what to do, I usually proceed, with the idea that if anything else is unclear then it’s over, but also open to the chart being legitimate if everything else tells a coherent story. Ruler of the 2nd, significator for the ‘lost object’ of the book, is Neptune, which sits in the 1st. This suggests I either know where it is or I’m the one who put it where I can’t find it–certainly descriptive of the situation and common to my difficulties! In its own sign of Pisces, the significator suggests the book is hidden or obscured from view, and as a location the 1st suggests that the book is in the area where I spend the most time–that makes sense–but where to now? The significator is its own dispositor, and the entire house is where I spend my time! We might now inspect the Moon, though it mostly says that it may be in a place I’ve stashed it before (Moon conjunct the South Node). The 2nd itself hold Pallas in Pisces (describing the esoteric wisdom contained in the book) and Uranus in Aries (suggesting perhaps that I need to aggressively continue looking, and that it might be found suddenly), and in Aries we might find a hint as to the location or circumstances under which it will be found: discarding the outside possibilities, we have somewhere near a heating source, somewhere not frequented often, possibly near the ceiling (because heat rises?) in or near something metal.

So, we go to another possibility, inspecting the ruler of a House where the object would naturally be found, in this case, a book would fall in the 3rd of written materials (yes, it’s been published, but the 9th would be more appropriate for Jupiterian items, like a horse or TV). Aries is on the cusp, with ruler Mars in the 12th conjunct Pluto with only 1 minute difference–the location says hidden, the sign (Capricorn) says in something solid, a box, perhaps, maybe black or dark brown, behind closed doors, something wooden, or made of cement or rock, contained, or maybe under a pile of other things, but put there with the idea of staying organized that is inherent to Cappy. Pluto hints that it might have been re-cycled (yikes!) or destroyed–but close as Pluto is to Mars, it’s not necessarily a player. Pluto does rule the 10th, implying that where it’s been put might have to do with my career, someplace I store professional papers–okay, but I thought I’d already looked in all those places?

Let’s review the clues: the book is hidden or obscured from view, placed somewhere I’ve put it before and where I spend a lot of time, probably in pursuing my career, in something solid, near metal or a brown or black Capricorn material (wood!) behind a door of some kind, placed there trying to stay organized–and then it hits me! This describes the seldom-used, re-finished to show its natural brown wood, drop-down desk that holds astrology papers and books, most of which I seldom access or need–unlike the book I’m looking for. I had looked in the drawers of this desk, and even opened the drop-down door, but somehow missed the book which, Eureka! I find tucked under some papers in one of the desk’s cubbies–oh, and there’s a large copper planter on top of the desk, and the hardware is black metal. This desk is located right next to the desk where my computer sits–it is the corner of the house I frequent the most, no question–however, the location doesn’t correspond to directional indicators–unless I imagine myself literally standing in the place of the ASC, facing in to the chart, as I’m sitting at my computer desk–then the book would lie physically to my left, where we find Mars in the 12th.

Horary can be extremely complicated, and it does take a long time to become comfortable making discretionary judgments about which clues to follow, but it’s a rewarding branch of astrology that can deliver some amazing and highly practical results. Good luck with your explorations!

Here’s another example I tackled on the blog, and see here if you’d like a Horary done for you–thanks!

 

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12 November 2018 Let’s Find It! A Straightforward Lesson in Locating Lost Objects Part 1

11 Sunday Nov 2018

Posted by juliedemboski in astrology, Horary

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‘Hide and Seek’ By James Tissot c1877 {{PD}}

Nothing new perfects today, as we breeze along under the light of the waxing Moon. Instead of a forecast, I offer a re-print from the pages of ECLIPSE:

Misplacing an object is one of the most common mini-upsets we can experience. After all, we wanted that thing right now, and somehow it is not where (we think) we put it! Astrology can be exceptionally helpful in locating what’s gone missing, living or inanimate–though right now we’ll concentrate on a simple method for finding objects, rather than people, or even pets, as finding the living can get a little complicated.

We start, not with the moment we begin looking for the object, but in the moment when our minds form the intent of drawing a horary to ask the location of the object. So, after 45 minutes of digging through couch cushions and going on hands and knees around the room, searching for our keys, we sigh and say to ourselves, looking immediately at the nearest timepiece, ‘Where are my keys?’ We proceed to the computer with the time in mind, draw our chart for that time, and then inspect it for a few matters that can affect its reading, before we actually approach the question.

There are four classic indicators that a chart will not deliver a reliable answer (or that the astrologer shouldn’t judge the chart). Please keep in mind that there can be much variation in method from astrologer to astrologer, largely through each person’s own trial and error to find what works best for them, or in their dedication to horary from a specific perspective (such as following ancient proscriptions). Do not think that comparing methodologies will get you any closer to definitive rules! But, there are some rules about when it’s safe to judge a chart that can be considered Universal. Here they are:

·         An Ascendant that precludes learning anything new from the chart. This arises when the Ascendant for the question falls in the first 3 degrees of a sign, or in the last 3. With the 3 early degrees of a sign, we are looking at a matter that is in its infancy. The situation or circumstances are not developed enough to get a clear handle on–we can’t read what hasn’t yet taken shape. With the last 3 degrees of any sign on the Ascendant, we are notified that the matter is, in some essential way, already settled or formed. We can find out in what way by reading the chart, but in my experience these are always circumstances we are already aware of, and so the chart can add nothing to our store of knowledge about the issue. And as we know, should the Ascendant fall in the 29th degree, the querent (person asking the question), if not the situation itself, is under extreme stress (in fact, everything in the 1st House will describe the person asking the question. For example, if Mars is here, they are likely driven by anger, if Neptune, they are confused or distraught).

·         The Moon is Void of Course. This is when the Moon will make no major Ptolemaic aspect before leaving the sign: conjunction, sextile, square, trine, or opposition. For horary we look at applying aspects only, though the wonderful March and McEvers suggest that if the contact is less than 1 degree past exact it can also be counted–and my experience supports this. I also use the quincunx, as it’s telling of the need for change or modification to the situation in question before a final answer is available; it can often suggest the possibility of a desirable outcome, or conversely the denial of fulfillment, dependent on the querent’s choices and actions from that point forward–in short, it tells you that something can still be done to affect the question. A good way to think of the results of a Moon Void of Course chart is to say, ‘Nothing will come of it,’ based on the idea that the Moon drives the action. March and McEvers also note that, if the answer to the question can be obtained without referencing the Moon, then a Void doesn’t matter–this is in my opinion true.

·         Saturn in the 7th House, Capricorn or Aquarius on the 7th House cusp. Saturn in the 7th indicates that the one judging the chart (the astrologer) will miss something relevant and likely then come to a mistaken conclusion, make mistakes in calculation, or judge incorrectly some relevant part of the equation. Capricorn and Aquarius are both ruled by Saturn in ancient practice, hence the rule about these two signs on the 7th cusp suggesting the chart should not be read. I have read charts with those signs on the 7th House cusp, but with mixed results, and I have never read with Saturn in the 7th–both rules are worth noting and respecting–I follow about Saturn’s placement consistently, as well as when Cappy is on the 7th cusp, but since I use Uranus I don’t include a prohibition when Aquarius is 7th cusp ruler.

·         Moon in the Via Combusta. This rule is the one most likely to be ignored by modern astrologers. It’s based on the passage of the Moon through 15 Libra to 15 Scorpio, the claws and body of the Scorpion, and which area at one time held several malefic fixed stars. The stars have since precessed (moved forward) in the zodiac, but the area of ‘the burning way’ or ‘fiery path’ is still held to be itself malefic by some astrologers. This is one rule I don’t follow, but have caught myself more than once checking it out in cases where it might provide the answer to why a chart isn’t working!

Now we have the basics as to when one should just throw up one’s hands and walk away from a reading. If none of these circumstances occur when we draw a chart, then we have the go-ahead. What we need to remember is that a horary chart is, just like a birth chart, a snapshot of a moment in time and space that contains information–and in this case, because we are focused on a specific question/ set of circumstances, we don’t read the entire chart, we only read the elements associated with the question–that trims it down quite a bit, and makes lost objects a good place to begin to learn about horary astrology, because they typically involve only two parties, the person looking for the thing and the thing itself.

Some astrologers only use the planets visible to the naked eye, in the tradition of those who first formulated horary rules (which gives us Saturn as ruler of Uranus and Jupiter as ruler of Pisces), and many modern practitioners use the higher and lower octave method i.e. for Aquarius on the cusp of the 1st and so representing the querent, for example, the astrologer might examine both Mercury (lower octave) and Uranus (higher octave), and some argue against using the outer planets at all as they move so slowly. I find that the outer planets are indeed usable, as they can often represent a certain sluggishness, impermeability, or static quality of the matter or person they represent, though those who stick to the ancient rules do not agree, and I also often examine both higher and lower octave, and ancient rulers, for corroboration of an outcome.

To find a lost object we look at the ruler of the 1st, which stands for the querent (the person asking the question), the ruler of the 2nd, which is the usual House used to represent a lost object, and the Moon, which is always co-representative of the querent (except when another part of the question commandeers this significator) and also acts as an indicator of the passage of time, and so can weigh in on expected events or help us discern how long we might have to wait until we once again have the object in our hands. As well, the planets that rule the significators are important for what they might convey. One important thing to note which seems to be very true: we should not ask questions idly–some emotional impetus is necessary to bring the ‘urge to know’ forth at just the right moment in the mind–this way the timing of a question has some rhyme and reason behind it.

Tomorrow I’ll post the second and final part of the Horary lesson on finding lost objects.

 

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For Those So Inclined, A Horary Puzzle, And My Solution

12 Friday May 2017

Posted by juliedemboski in Horary, Something For You

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On May 3rd I realized that a gift card I thought was in my husband’s wallet was not there, and no where to be found. There was some question as to whether I’d ever actually given it to my husband, whether I may have taken it back, and whether it may already have been spent. After turning the house upside down, then sitting down with a glass of wine (because hunting is thirsty work!) it occurred to me to draw a Horary to ask, ‘Where is my gift card?’ The chart had an early Ascendant, technically suggesting it is not safe to judge–that is, won’t deliver a reliable answer–though the meaning of a Horary Ascendant in the first three degrees of a sign should be read as, ‘It’s too soon to tell’, implying the matter is in some way not yet developed enough to provide an answer. I read the chart anyway, as an early Ascendant in a lost item case may simply mean that even with the info provided in the chart, it may be some time before conditions are ripe for finding the item. I’m posting the chart, and anyone who’d like to take a crack at reading it may–you can leave your interpretation in the comments if you like–then next week I’ll post my reading of it, and the outcome of the matter, which happened today, the 12th.

Hints for successful interpretation: Keep it simple–lost items are signified by the ruler of the 2nd and potentially by any bodies located therein, with placement and dispositor of the ruler often being helpful in obtaining a correct answer; the Moon is important in how things will progress; ignore anything not directly related to the question–that helps give a ‘clean’ answer and keeps you from being distracted by irrelevancies. After quite a bit of experimenting, with obtaining a clear and informative answer to a question the goal, I’ve used the methods outlined in March and McEvers ‘The Only Way To . . . Learn About Horary and Electional Astrology Volume VI’ with the best and most consistent results, and that’s what I used here. Happy Interpreting, and have a great weekend!

Hello! I’m back to fill you in on how the chart worked for me. As mentioned, the Ascendant is considered too early for a clear answer (in this case, 2 Scorpio 04, within the first three degrees of the sign). Though this is considered ‘unreadable’, it doesn’t prevent gleaning info, it only says that things have not developed to a definitive point yet–and as it turned out, this was right, as it took me until the 12th to find the lost card, even having the chart info.

For those curious, there are four main proscriptions against reading a Horary chart: an Ascendant that is either in the first three degrees (too early to know) or in the last three degrees of a sign (the matter is already settled, so you can find out the particulars, but you must be aware you can’t at this point change the outcome); Saturn in the 7th–this suggests that the astrologer who’ll read the chart doesn’t understand it, or may miss something; if the Moon is Void–that is, won’t make anymore major aspects before leaving the sign; and if the Moon is in the Via Combusta, the real estate between 15 Libra and 15 Scorpio. This latter is an ancient rule which was based on this section of the sky containing a number of malefic fixed stars, but I don’t use this, as experience has shown me it doesn’t seem to apply anymore.

For a Horary, we state (and write down!) the question as clearly as possible, in this case, ‘Where is my gift card?’ I am the querent as well as the astrologer; my significator is Mars (and in a pinch, Pluto) since it rules the House that represents me, the 1st. Mars is in Gemini in the 8th, hinting at involvement of my husband, especially since I had asked him to carry the card in his wallet, which from my POV is definitely the 8th! The Moon is always co-ruler of the question, and as such can be considered as also repping the querent (unless another entity in the chart is ruled by the Moon). Luna always shows how the rest of the matter will progress by what it will aspect while still in the sign–applying aspects (or ones not yet formed) show the future, while aspects already formed by the Moon to other bodies while in this same sign show the past (unless the Moon is making a separating aspect to a relevant significator and it is one degree or less past exact). In this case the Moon’s at 25 Leo 53, late in the sign but not Void, suggesting that we’re close to the end of the matter, just not quite there yet.

Lost objects are generally represented by the 2nd House; here the ruler is Jupiter, located in Libra in the 12th, and the 2nd House holds Black Moon Lilith and Saturn. That Libra, the sign of partnership, is involved, added to the placement of my sig in the 8th, at first made me think my husband might still have possession of the card, or at least knew where it had been hidden or disposed of (12th)–but, we’ll soon see why these ‘hints’ that echoed my own thinking turned out to be red herrings.

In lost objects we look not just at aspects, but at the directions signified by the Houses, and locations related to signs, even at associated colors, in some instances, to help find the object. We start with Jupiter, ruler of the 2nd, which is in Libra in the 12th. In lost object Horaries, or in any Horary where we are asking about the return of something or where a change of mind may come in, we note retrogrades, and in this instance, we have retro Jupiter as significator of the item, suggesting it will turn up, one way or another. We also look at dispositors of the object ruler, in this case Venus (ruler of Libra) which is in Aries, ruled by Mars, which is in Gemini, ruled by Mercury, which is in Aries, with final dispositor Mars, as the line turns back on itself (and just happens to be my significator, pointing toward me being responsible for where the object is).

With lost items, there is a general assertion that if the ruler of the object is in Virgo or Pisces, or the 6th or 12th, it is not readily visible and will be found in a ‘closed’ place, like a drawer, pocket, chest, or other enclosed area. The 12th placement of lost item sig suggests something thoroughly hidden, possibly undetectable, virtually invisible! And its final dispositor reinforces that, as sitting in the 8th it suggests totally hidden, as well. Now here’s where I need to mention that there are specific places listed as potential spots where the item will be found that correlate to sig placements, but as the reader of the chart, we must use logic and our own discretion in following leads. With 8th and 12th there is an uncanny correspondence in both Houses to laboratories, hospitals, and plumbing, wet areas, etc., which just don’t add up in this case, but which must be peripherally kept in mind, in case the more logical locations don’t pan out.

We also look at signs, with Libra suggesting attics or bedrooms–and the bedroom being exactly where I’d been looking for the card. Gemini, as sign of the dispositor, names a number of potential spots, but the ones that stood out are, per March and McEvers, “Near a wall, wainscoting, in a chest or trunk”. Air signs denote a spot ‘high up’. This indeed led my original search when I first did the chart, sending me to a pair of purses leaning against the wall on the top shelf of the closet in our bedroom, in the south by west corner of the room, corresponding to the dispositor. The southeast was suggested by the significator placed in the 12th, which seemed to point to the bedroom, which is in that corner of the house (and there is no furniture in the southeast corner of the room). I did not find it at that time, in spite of a thorough (or so I thought) search.

I couldn’t let it go; I was sure the chart was telling me where the card was, and I just wasn’t (yet!) seeing it, which from the early Ascendant was to be expected. I looked at some more obscure references, such as Venus, ruler of Jupiter, in the 6th in Aries, which offered several suggestions along the same vein: in a place of work or office, in a box, pocket, drawer, or cabinet (and I had searched all the coat and jacket and sweater pockets I could find), with Aries offering one helpful suggestion: in places not often accessed. I looked too at suggested colors, which I usually don’t use, though I will sometimes read through them in case something jumps out. This time Libra, location of the lost card significator, listed ‘pastel colors’. Nothing immediately came to mind.

This dresser was the culprit. Notice how innocently it hides things.

Though I thought I’d already searched it completely, I decided to go through a dresser that sits right next to the closet, in the same direction/ part of the room. I was sure I wouldn’t find anything–until I’m looking in one of the drawers, and something clicks. It was the ‘thoroughly hidden’ facet, plus the ‘not accessed frequently’ facet, plus the Libran pastels–which lead me to lift up a pile of neatly folded, pale-colored scarves in a section of the drawer I hardly use–and lo and behold, there was the card!

So, it was found (retro status of the ruler), was essentially where it had been described as being, but it took some time going by to ‘let things develop’ (the early Ascendant). In looking at the chart after the fact, hoping to see where the timing for finding the item might’ve been indicated, I found the only correspondence between the Moon (which shows issue progress) and Saturn, found in the House indicating the lost object. It showed roughly and just under 1.5 degrees to perfection of a trine in Fire. Time to act! and corresponding to approximately 9 days later (1.5 weeks) when the object was found, just as the transiting Moon was within orb of conjoining the object’s significator. And, not to be forgotten, we saw a developing trine between me (Mars) and lost object sig (Jupiter), promising that Yes, I would find the card.

I know that’s a long explanation–thanks for your patience, and your interest–and have a great weekend!

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On Horary Questions, Juno, and the Moon in Scorpio

14 Wednesday Oct 2015

Posted by juliedemboski in astrology, Horary, Juno, Moon

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Sidney Hall - Urania's Mirror 1825 [[PD]]

Sidney Hall – Urania’s Mirror 1825 [[PD]]

Moon in Scorpio

The transiting Moon in the Scorpion’s sign adds depth to the atmosphere, so that those who are comfortable with emotion and with the way things are, are most ‘at home’ in the world right now; everyone else, the thinkers and doers and those ready for change may feel they’re moving through mud (or is it quicksand?) Just something to keep in mind during Luna’s journey–and of course this is the sign that holds part of the ancient Via Combusta (‘The Burning Way’). The Moon sited between 15 Libra and 15 Scorpio (Tropical) was considered a malefic placement in Horary, and some Horary Astrologers still use this in delineation. The reputation for this area may derive from fixed stars found there in ancient times, or from the way the Sun and Moon do not flourish in signs associated with the traditional malefics Saturn –Libra–and Mars–Scorpio. You may ask, does this area hold negative implications for natal placements found there? The answer is, no.

Juno at the midpoint of Mercury-Zeus 14 October

Obscure, I know, but an interesting set of contacts, especially when we note that Juno is also sesquiquadrate Sedna. Mind games may be the order of the day, not with others, but with ourselves! There will be a scratching, scrabbling, underlying need to feel empowered that could permeate thinking and communications, and be driven by desires, ambitions, instincts, and those matters in our ‘blind spot’ (issues that we carry that are plain as day to everyone else, but of which we remain blithely unaware!) This means we may be very vulnerable today, and possibly not even know we are (this could last through the 18th)–and that suggests hypersensitivity springing from what we’re not conscious of, from what we have hidden even from ourselves (or most especially from ourselves, that everyone else sees). Communicate with care, and realize that what we want may be exerting a much stronger influence on how we deal with others than we are aware–and that true cooperation will flourish only when we have as much regard for others’ wants and needs as we have for our own.

On Asking Horary Questions

When we ask about some matter using astrology, we need to understand that astrology can lay out the possibilities, but can’t be anymore definite about the outcome than we are at the moment of asking. By that I mean, if we are examining several alternatives through a horary question for the feasibility of each potential choice, we can only expect some generalities to show themselves, an outline of potentials, rather than a full-color, detailed portrait of guaranteed outcomes. It’s the difference between saying, “I’m hungry; where shall we go eat?” and so considering several potential places, and saying “I’m hungry; I’ll go to Fred’s and have the Chili-Cheese Conquistador for one!” With the first we haven’t decided anything but that we have a need and will consider alternatives–we wouldn’t reasonably expect to know the quality of the meal or the service, and anything that might happen there, at this stage; with the second we recognize the need and commit ourselves in a particular direction, from which we can extrapolate what the experience may be like, indigestion and all–and so with astrology, the first approach will tell us a little something about the experience we can expect with each restaurant, while the second will be much more specific, telling us what to expect with that particular meal experience at that place at this time.

This is something I’ve encountered many times working with querents (those asking the question): there is an expectation that astrology will not just tell them what to do, but will promise the success of a particular choice or venture. There is a kind of passive attitude that says astrology will give a definitive answer that not only makes the choice for them, but that also guarantees everything will develop along what they consider optimal lines. It just doesn’t work like that.

First, astrology does not tell us what to do: it shows us the probable circumstances resulting from a choice–and second, it doesn’t necessarily comment on the results, unless the choice itself brings immediate results. We can’t sit in the back seat and say, “I’ll climb into the front and turn left at the next crossroads, but only if the car will then turn into a Maserati and I’m guaranteed to arrive safely at my destination with a magically appearing pile of money in the trunk!” In this case, the querent is looking for a promise that taking responsibility and making a choice will insure that things go perfectly–beyond perfectly, really, to a kind of magical reward outcome–but a question can only address the next step, and the ripples this might cause, with potential ripples to the step after that moving out in ever-widening circles, and so being impossible to determine at the current, first-step point.

One more example: we ask, “Will my house sell by June?”, in one instance having it already listed for sale, and asking the same before having listed it. How could it possibly sell by June, or at all, if you haven’t taken the step of first listing it? The assumption that we can leap over necessary steps to find the ultimate outcome is detrimental to the asking process in that one then approaches the entire matter with the idea that no energy will be expended in a direction unless that direction is guaranteed to pan out positively–and yet, consider how many times something that didn’t work out sent you in a different direction, and so sparked a later success.

That old saying about a journey beginning with a single step truly applies to asking questions in horary astrology. It’s the next step we see in the chart, and as with everything in life, there are just no guarantees about how it will all come out.

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Water, Part 2

02 Monday Feb 2009

Posted by juliedemboski in astrology, Horary

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Below is the original posting, with chart (and I apologize for how fuzzy it is–the old style clarity and ability to blow-up the chart does not seem to be available on WordPress any longer); what follows the original material is my assessment of the chart, and real-world progress in the querents’ case. I’ll also answer each of you who so kindly offered your take on the chart, within the comments section.

Dear Reader,

I’m going to ask for your help with this one; since I’m close to the querents, it’s tough for me to take an objective view.

Let’s pretend it’s the Old West, and Water is a precious commodity. One day, our intrepid heroes (the querents–1st House) wake up to find that somehow tens of thousands of gallons of water have, supposedly, run through their system (while they were out-of-town for many weeks), and they’re left with a whopping bill (over $700 for one month, for a single-family residence–I should note that no one was in the house, and even when the entire family of four are present, water consumption is less than one-third of what they were charged for this month). Inspection proves that there is no haphazardly running tap, no breech in the lines, and the meter is not currently registering any activity, so a leak is not the cause. That leaves only two alternatives: fraud on the part of the water company, or water rustlers. Now, if you’re not from the Western US, or another part of the world where ranching and farming depend on underground water supplies, you may find the theft of water hard to believe. The final scene of ‘There Will Be Blood,’ where Daniel Day-Lewis talks about long long straws dipping in to other people’s distant milkshakes, aptly describes the kind of water commandeering that has been going on since well pumps, or perhaps since the first simple diversion of an underground stream, first occurred. Water rights are almost a sacred thing in the desert areas where I grew up, so theft in this case did seem to me a possibility (think of how much water it takes to fill an in-ground pool or hot tub). On the other hand, fraud by a co-operative utility that is progressively finding more and more of their assets cut into by residents resorting to solar panels, generators, simple downsizing on use due to high prices, installation of independent wells, and a diminishing population in the area, not to mention some very poor decisions in the buying and selling of their primary commodity (electricity), in their settlement with union employees, and in their decision to build a new headquarters for tens of millions against the wishes of their shareholders (the public), have put this utility in a bad way financially–all of this makes systematic fraud a distinct possibility, as well.

Below is the chart; I’d love to hear what you think. And many thanks to those who can take the time to give an opinion.

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 Part 2

I follow some pretty cut-and-dried horary rules, based on March and McEvers’ excellent ‘The Only Way to . . .’ series, so when I saw the Void Moon, I was done; the problem, though, was what do I tell the client? I use two phrases to describe the outcome of a question posed during the Void Moon: ‘Nothing will come of it,’ or ‘There’s nothing to worry about,’ and I had no idea which would prevail–would ‘nothing’ indicate that, no matter what they did, the bill would stand as it was? Or was there indeed, nothing to worry about, implying that things would be resolved in the client’s favor? You can see my dilemma!

Currently, the querents are vigorously pursuing a reasonable adjustment, using past water use patterns and billing, as well as the evidence of mutiple parties’ inspections of the house and grounds, with no evidence of excess water anywhere, and an apparently functioning meter (which has been thoroughly vetted by the utility) but just this morning one of the querents told me that she spoke with the utility rep, who called her ‘irrational’ because she did not accept his explanation that the 100,000 gallon flow-through (yes! one hundred thousand!) just started and stopped spontaneously, leaving no evidence behind! The governing board of the utility meets this week, and the matter will be raised; meanwhile, the querents are contemplating a class-action suit, as during this morning’s conversation, the client said that the utility rep admitted to her that they had handled 17 similar complaints just last week–and in such a relatively small place, that’s a significant number, possibly signalling malfeasance, rather than mistake.

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